2: 1914 is finally dropped
What would this even be about anymore? It would be like Scientology throwing out Dianetics.
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JWs can toast now….what’s next
by FFGhost inso you can see from multiple topics here (& elsewhere), based on gb update #4, jws now have permission to toast.. there’s been a boatload of “xyz is now allowed” over the past couple of years….beards, no ties in field service or at the kh, sister can wear pants at the kh & in field service…... what do you think is next?.
a lot of folks are speculating on birthday celebrations being allowed, and i agree that will eventually come, but i don’t think it is next.
too big of a jump.. heres my guess:.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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his kids are probably going to be messed up now with what they have been told from their JW grandparents and now their new step dad.
I doubt he is mentioned much other than them going over there and what they did there. By all indications Dijana seems to be a good parent and her parents aren’t likely to want to bring him up with all things considered. Lloyd can’t help tame his abusive and manipulative nature and they’ll figure it out if the internet doesn’t get to them first. The best she could do for them is to create a stable and nurturing environment and let the chaos and dysfunction that surrounds Jabba the Hutt speak for itself.
I can imagine their primary complaint about their father will be his disinterest in their lives and his obsession with a religion he left years before they were born.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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other exJW YouTubers are also writing to these MPs. Wally also said he reaching out to them. Someone like him would be far better to talk to them
You have a forum right here. If you want people to reach out to this MP and warn them about Jabba the Hutt, please provide details and you’ll probably get a few hits. They’d have to vet him if interested, and as we all know, the internet is not kind to him.
Type in “who is Lloyd Evans?” into ChatGPT and it links right to the wikitubia article that I wrote over half of.
I would think if I were this MP, the fact that he is currently suing people in a lawsuit that is not serious in order to silence them would be a major red flag as to this man’s integrity.
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WAR begins.
by lastmanstanding inthings are moving right along.
“israel” has gone to war with iran.. who is fooled?.
this is uncle sam, same as in ukraine.. daniel layed out clearly the events of “d day” june 6, 1944 as the “ships of kittim” would sail against the king of the north.
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This war is done. All that remains to be decided is whether or not that Islamic regime survives and whether it’s the US or Israel that takes out the last nuclear site deep in that mountain. It would rank among the biggest geopolitical blunders ever if Israel didn’t finish the job now.
If I were Iran I’d be running to Trump right now and begging for a deal.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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What was funny about that stunt was what that Truth Seeker Atheist guy who lent Jabba the Hutt the canoe said in a YT comment after the Thailand scandal broke. Lloyd didn’t want to wear a life jacket because it made him look goofy but TSA insisted, citing NY law. To be fair, Lloyd looks goofy with or without the life jacket. The leather jacket on the canoe was a horrible stylistic choice too. It made him look even fatter than he already was and his belly notably bulged out the front. And boy did he struggle to fit into that canoe and work the paddle. Probably took it out on a hooker later that night while the family was asleep.
“Another late night meeting with Javier about the documentary, darling! Don’t wait up!”
That scene was supposed to be in the TTATT documentary, but after Ortiz dropped him it is no more. In fact, I think the documentary itself is done for. Last update was in Feb 2022 when they announced they were booting him from the film! So if you donated any money to that project, you pretty much paid for Lloyd’s flight tickets, hotel rooms, lobster dinners and hookers.
Enjoy!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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how long before he moves back to the uk and asks his dad for help?
He’s not doing that. Read his book. It’s full of vitriol and tirades against his father, whom he viewed as the strict JW parent who pushed it on his mother who actually was open to questioning some things.
I think he took whatever remained of that earthquake fund that was going to be enough to purchase that home in Istria with his family and instead bought that attic flat in Zagreb. So I suspect that Jabba the Hutt will have enough to make ends meet by continuing his JW videos. He discovered the hard way that it is difficult for YT influencers to stay relevant and he’s really not a thing anymore. He’ll earn enough to eke out his solitary life in Zagreb I reckon. But that’s not what he wanted when he told Andrew Gold he wanted to live on an island in retirement.
Instead he’ll wait until the Croatian pension system kicks in for him and try for one last infusion of money by some sort of retirement fundraiser. He didn’t get Croatian citizenship because he wanted a new passport. He’s more like his father than he’d ever care to acknowledge. Just a sad and old lonely man.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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AI lists lloydevans.info as his website.
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Things Rutherford got wrong that Fred Franz had to clear up
by slimboyfat ini was interested by the suggestion in a recent discussion that rutherford was in some way preferable to fred franz, because i’ve not come across this view before.
it made me rethink my assumptions and try to work out why i hold the opposite view and prefer fred franz to rutherford.
i haven’t done any additional research, so i’m only drawing on what i can remember off the top of my head, but i thought i’d list a few things where i reckon fred franz’s approach was preferable to rutherford.
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Contrasting personalities and lifestyles too.
Rutherford:
Privately profane and boorish
Extravagant lifestyle - Beth Sarim and apartments kept for him in NY and Bethel
Alcoholic
Abandoned his wife and lived with a mistress
Racist
Franz:
Friendly and accessible
Lived in a humble Bethel flat
Possible teetotaler? If he drank it wasn’t an issue
Lifelong Bachelor and celibate
Spoke several languages and enjoyed going to foreign conventions
By all accounts, Bethelites enjoyed having Freddie around while they longed for Rutherford to go back to San Diego. I think that’s a huge reason why Franz’s era seemed to be celebrated more than Rutherford’s. Even Knorr wasn’t as big of a prick as JFR was. Certainly Franz had a higher degree of morality than Rutherford.
Don’t let that fool you. The Knorr/Franz team was every bit as destructive as Rutherford.
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Things Rutherford got wrong that Fred Franz had to clear up
by slimboyfat ini was interested by the suggestion in a recent discussion that rutherford was in some way preferable to fred franz, because i’ve not come across this view before.
it made me rethink my assumptions and try to work out why i hold the opposite view and prefer fred franz to rutherford.
i haven’t done any additional research, so i’m only drawing on what i can remember off the top of my head, but i thought i’d list a few things where i reckon fred franz’s approach was preferable to rutherford.
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What was Franz’s role regarding blood I wonder. Did he 1) come up with the idea to refuse blood transfusions 2) someone else came up with the idea and he fully supported it 3) he went along with the idea but was not enthusiastic, or 4) some other option?
The blood issue was pushed by the quack Clayton Woodworth (first editor of what became Awake!). Woodworth also preached against aluminum cookware and tried to change the names of the months and days.
Rutherford was more of a pragmatist than Franz was and didn’t adopt these silly ideas. Woodworth did outlive Rutherford by almost 10 years, so I suspect he had some influence on Franz.
One thing that is often overlooked is that disfellowshipping was ramped up after Rutherford’s death. During his lifespan it tended to happen primarily in cases of open apostasy and/or going directly against Rutherford. Knorr/Franz were obsessed with sex and so the most often abused reason for DFing in modern times was thus born. Also they cracked down on alcoholism (Hayden Covington was DFed for this) and banned smoking.
It’s a bit of a wash for me. Rutherford took the Russellite movement and created the foundation of the cult-like movement that exists today. Franz was way more of a puritan than Rutherford was and did his own set of damage, especially with the strict enforcement of DFing rules and the added set of rules that were not to be broken.
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The JW's are suing Mark O'Donnell in civil court for millions.So protect the pedos, and suit the whistelblowers? Shame on this cult!
by WingCommander inlink to his announcement on www.jwchildabuse.org:.
https://www.jwchildabuse.org/news/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-editor-of-jw-child-abuse-website-for-millions/.
if anyone needed any further proof of how low and despicable this cult has become, here's more evidence.
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Journalists have been known to do what Mark claims he did (or even worse). Difference is that the media outlet they are employed by gets sued and there’s some sort of settlement that is paid out to make the case go away. The publicity alone was worth that. The perfect crime. WT knows this will break him even in the event this gets tossed. This is why “freelance” Scientology bloggers and activists need to be very careful as to what they are getting involved in. No exJW gofundme as Redditors are suggesting is going to raise $150K or whatever Mark says his legal fees (so far) are. Not even his former mentor was capable of raising that kind of cash on the fly. This can go on for years.
Yes, I know “WT bad, Mark good” but the laws still apply. I hope for his sake Mark gets out of this and his legal representation advises him correctly on what issues he’s safe on and where he’s potentially liable. And should it become clear the WT has a case, I hope he puts his animosity for the WT aside and looks for the best way out of this.
Sometimes it’s better to be more practical than right. This lawsuit is the last thing someone nearing retirement age needs. Nothing is worth spending the rest of your life in poverty and dodging creditors for a ridiculous sum you can never pay.